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Richard230 replied to the thread Electric Isseta clone.
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Quote Originally Posted by EVcycle View Post
You can get away with a lot as far as safety with a 3 wheel vehicle.
But, like the Isseta, this micro car has four wheels. "

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Michael Moore replied to the thread Electric Isseta clone.
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Quote Originally Posted by Stevo View Post
Perfect for beer runs, but not a good chick magnet fo sho!!
Bubble cars are CUTE and they attract people (kind of like motorcycle sidecars). My wife and I were walking around the neighborhood a couple of weeks ago and saw a DIY VW bus flatbed conversion that had a pretty ragged Isetta project car on the back, that was a pretty cool combination, and definitely something you don't see every day.

An e-Messershcmitt kabinenroller seems like it would be a lot of fun. "

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mjc506 created the thread Hi from Wales, UK.
" 'ning all.

I'm planning to convert my 2007 Suzuki DL650 V-strom, or perhaps get another donor, in the near future. Thank you all for making such useful information available on-line, this makes many things much easier!

Matt "

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EVcycle replied to the thread Electric Isseta clone.
" You can get away with a lot as far as safety with a 3 wheel vehicle. "

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Stevo replied to the thread Electric Isseta clone.
" Perfect for beer runs, but not a good chick magnet fo sho!! "

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EVcycle replied to the thread The Juiced Drag bike progress post.
" This week we :
Welded tabs and secured the body.
Installed the back brake lines, bled and setup the rear brakes.
Redid the bike stand. It was originally way to high and in the way of the wheelie bar mounts.

Took Tammy to practice her turning on the bike since this is a completely different deal with the
slick and longer wheelbase. She did a great job and "got on it" a few times on the straight sections as she made the rounds.

We will be building front and side covers before anymore testing. (too many rocks getting on the batteries)

More next week!

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Richard230 created the thread Electric Isseta clone.
" Here is a vehicle style out of the past. A modern clone of the 1958 BMW Isseta. I wouldn't have thought that any manufacturer could make something like this in this safety-first age: https://electricmotorcycles.news/the-microlino-story/ "

8 Hours Ago

T Rush replied to the thread temperature management for long term battery performance?.
" my Wife drives a Nissan Leaf, which has no battery warming or cooling.....in the summer time(pretty darn hot here now) we don't really notice any ill effects, tho I think I read where some Nissan Leaf owners had issues in other even hotter climates

but in the winter, yes we do notice problems with charging and range when its very cold

I'm sure these extremes(our temp can vary as much as 120F between summer and winter here) do effect long term performance
...so if she does keep this Leaf(she wants the new one....but I trying to talk her into the Chevy Bolt, which has battery heating and cooling when charging) I will want to install a heated garage foor


I did see some videos of a guy dyno tuning an electric motorcycle and using a heater to warm the batteries....but otherwise all motorcycles aren't really the nicest to use in temperature extremes, so it would be less of a problem if people mostly ride and recharge them in milder weather "

12 Hours Ago

frodus replied to the thread Now available: sprockets, Clearview display and Domino throttle.
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Quote Originally Posted by Nicman View Post
Frodus,
The gen4 size 6, can it be adjusted to accept 128 v DC?

120% of 116 is about 140 and I read that they are able to operate from 70%-120% of nominal voltage.

I have a line on some 10C NMC that come in 64v modules.

Thanks

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
Is this the one you bought from me? The ones I sell go to 120V. Above that, they go into shutdown and do not turn on. "

20 Hours Ago

Nicman replied to the thread Now available: sprockets, Clearview display and Domino throttle.
" Frodus,
The gen4 size 6, can it be adjusted to accept 128 v DC?

120% of 116 is about 140 and I read that they are able to operate from 70%-120% of nominal voltage.

I have a line on some 10C NMC that come in 64v modules.

Thanks

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk "

1 Day Ago

Michael Moore replied to the thread Is a DIY Zero powertrain from aftermarket parts possible?.
" Richard, I'd be surprised if Zero wasn't advised by their attorneys to not sell components with the liability issues in these modern times, especially if it looks like they are helping potential competitors.

Stuart, I grew up in ABQ - 5th grade through UNM, back in the days when to go dirt riding I just drove 10 minutes to the north edge of town (or the White Wash on the east edge) and unloaded and rode as long as I liked. I took a quick look at your thread and I need to look at the links in it too, but right now a lot of the part-specific nomenclature is coming across as "that sounds interesting, I wonder what it means?".

I've just finished a 15 month project of emptying 500 sq ft of warehouse space of all my vintage bikes, so the garage is in a bit of a shambles as I try to find space for things that I kept and I'm also trying to figure out where do I go from here after calling a halt to the kinds of bikes I've ridden for the last 45 years (no more dirt bikes either, I live in the wrong place for dirt riding).

I'll drop you a PM and we can chat about what you have, but it may be a bit premature right now while things are in a state of flux (see, I'm trying to make electrical/magnetism jokes ). I'd like to have some more knowledge before I expend significant amounts of money.

It occurred to me that a good example for the OP would have been to say that I was asking about the availability of an e-moto equivalent of a small block Chevy crate motor. Proven stuff, everyone knows how to deal with them, decent power, take it out of the crate and drop it in your hotrod and ignore it afterwards other than routine maintenance.

I appreciate everyone's comments,

cheers,
Michael "

1 Day Ago

Richard230 replied to the thread Is a DIY Zero powertrain from aftermarket parts possible?.
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Quote Originally Posted by Michael Moore View Post
Thanks for the detailed reply. I'll check out your website, I'm fine with dealing with "informed hobbyist" side businesses since I've had one of my own.

By turnkey I mean "these parts make a known-good package that work together well and have support for the build". I'd gathered the automotive batteries were the items of choice at the moment. I mentioned BMS because I kept seeing reference to it and presumed it was part of a well-spec'd build. Plus, I tend towards "put it together right and then don't mess with things if avoidable." I've done a couple of "empty cabinet" CNC mill control conversions so I can deal with wiring, it's the magic smoke inside of electronics that I don't understand.

I don't know if Zero has a lot of hugely effective secret/proprietary tech in the powertrain or if it is more a case of "we've chased the bugs out, added some minor tweaks, and offer some level of warranty/support with a motorcycle attached to the electrics".

I've got no problem with them making a profit on their efforts and so they can stay in business, but at their retail or even used prices for current models I am not in the Zero target market. I'd want a project that mostly is for fiddling, not something I can buy and immediately ride across country. But I don't like fiddling with stuff that is so obscure/arcane it can't be done by normal people, and I want to fiddle when I want to fiddle, and not by the side of the road.

My current street bike project is based on a Honda CTX700 with the Dual Clutch Transmission (DCT). 45 honest horsepower is plenty, and that's in a 500 pound bike that sounds like it may have (with the DCT but a not very sporty state of tune) similar performance to a Zero. If I want a go-fast race project, I've already got one of those (and have built them before), and I'm not in need of bikes that have 2-4X more power than I can use.

You can see some of my current and past projects from this page on my website:

http://www.eurospares.com/other.htm

cheers,
Michael
Zero used to sell their power train components to private individuals, but not their battery packs, as I recall. However, they seemed to have stopped doing this a few years ago. Probably due to liability concerns by the lawyers and insurance companies. However, they still will sell their components to some small EV motorcycle manufacturers, aircraft and water sports developers, but I suspect that they have to enter into formal agreements and hold Zero harmless if something bad happens to the customers of these products. "

2 Days Ago

Duck-Stew replied to the thread Is a DIY Zero powertrain from aftermarket parts possible?.
" http://elmoto.net/showthread.php?t=4362

I'm at a cross-roads and considering selling the exact set-up that frodus is proposing to you, but since I've bought it and it's sat in my garage for a few months, it'd likely be cheaper. I even have a '10 Zero S which can go with it (clean title too).

--Stuart "

2 Days Ago

Michael Moore replied to the thread Is a DIY Zero powertrain from aftermarket parts possible?.
" Thanks for the detailed reply. I'll check out your website, I'm fine with dealing with "informed hobbyist" side businesses since I've had one of my own.

By turnkey I mean "these parts make a known-good package that work together well and have support for the build". I'd gathered the automotive batteries were the items of choice at the moment. I mentioned BMS because I kept seeing reference to it and presumed it was part of a well-spec'd build. Plus, I tend towards "put it together right and then don't mess with things if avoidable." I've done a couple of "empty cabinet" CNC mill control conversions so I can deal with wiring, it's the magic smoke inside of electronics that I don't understand.

I don't know if Zero has a lot of hugely effective secret/proprietary tech in the powertrain or if it is more a case of "we've chased the bugs out, added some minor tweaks, and offer some level of warranty/support with a motorcycle attached to the electrics".

I've got no problem with them making a profit on their efforts and so they can stay in business, but at their retail or even used prices for current models I am not in the Zero target market. I'd want a project that mostly is for fiddling, not something I can buy and immediately ride across country. But I don't like fiddling with stuff that is so obscure/arcane it can't be done by normal people, and I want to fiddle when I want to fiddle, and not by the side of the road.

My current street bike project is based on a Honda CTX700 with the Dual Clutch Transmission (DCT). 45 honest horsepower is plenty, and that's in a 500 pound bike that sounds like it may have (with the DCT but a not very sporty state of tune) similar performance to a Zero. If I want a go-fast race project, I've already got one of those (and have built them before), and I'm not in need of bikes that have 2-4X more power than I can use.

You can see some of my current and past projects from this page on my website:

http://www.eurospares.com/other.htm

cheers,
Michael "

2 Days Ago

Stevo replied to the thread Hello from San Francisco.
" Welcome Michael and enjoy the learning curves! Its a different kind of ride, but until a person experiences it themselves, its kinda indescribable. The torque and acceleration have a feel unlike any ICE rides. Batteries are only going to improve from here on out.
So if you decide to dive in and build a project, pay initial attention to the motor and controller for whatever chassis you want to use. Then, future upgrades to your battery will make the build improve with each new update. My 2 cents! "

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