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EVcycle replied to the thread The Juiced Drag bike progress post.
" Thanks!

Just having fun!

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Ted Dillard replied to the thread Aerial Ace.
" Yeah, that's from Ariel Motor Co, a UK based company with a presence in the US as well. Here's their history:
https://www.arielna.com/history/

If you look through that, in what, 2005 I think, Craig Bramscher brought the Ariel Atom 2 to the US, then pretty quickly moved to electric motorcycles with the Brammo Enertia.

They're the same company that brought a bunch of motorcycles to the world, starting in 1916 as well as bicycles and legit cars (again, on that link) including my personal favorite, the Ariel Square 4, a 4 cylinder motor in a square configuration, of which I've see one in person. Bizarre and cool.

Here's a piece on Bramscher getting it approved for registration in Oregon: http://mailtribune.com/business/bram...indeed-special

Yup, those trellis frames seem like they'd make great conversions. I've had my eye on the Ducatis for years now. "

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Functional Artist created the thread Aerial Ace.
" Anyone ever heard of an Aerial Ace?

It's a motorcycle, not a "flying" ace or some goofy Pokeyman thing (IDK. it came up in a google search)

I came across it while doing research on the Aerial Atom.

https://www.arielmotor.co.uk/ace/overview/

It's actually an ICE bike (for now), but it looks (to me) like it would make a great electric conversion with the wide open design & the strength of that frame, I would think that it'll carry the extra weight of batteries well.

IIRC I've also seen some Suzuki's with a frame designed like this. "

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Ted Dillard replied to the thread Alta Shutters.
" Based on what I've been told, not really in the Silicon Valley culture, as I explained above. I don't know the percentage, but there's a lot more tolerance and interest in emerging, developing tech. "

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Stevo replied to the thread Alta Shutters.
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Quote Originally Posted by Ted Dillard View Post
The only episodes I've seen of Shark Tank, they were only concerned with potential profitability, not the nature of the tech at all, so yeah, no, I don't think you're gonna see that.
ya... doesn't that sum up 99% of investors? "

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Ted Dillard replied to the thread Alta Shutters.
" The only episodes I've seen of Shark Tank, they were only concerned with potential profitability, not the nature of the tech at all, so yeah, no, I don't think you're gonna see that. "

22 Hours Ago

Stevo replied to the thread Alta Shutters.
" First off Ted, Thanks for disagreeing with me, and please continue to do so! I appreciate multiple viewpoints.
Second, I like the optimism very much!!
I am saddened by their shutting... they were designing everything right, and race testing their product.
Third, forgive me for being too optimistic sometimes!!

I did see the book Bottled Lightning, but I haven't bought it yet.
I agree to keep politics away. I dislike most politicians, blue and red.

I wonder if we'll see the Alta folks on the Shark Tank! "

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Stevo replied to the thread VOR.WORX.EMC.v3.0.
" I don't carry a 500 amp main fuse with me, but I do carry the smaller assortment of 3,5 and 10 amp bus fuses for the 12v system.
I figure if the 500a main pops, then there is something seriously wrong and I wouldn't want to just pop a new one in without diagnosing first.

Ya, the button will make it work without the phone, that was intentional, and its been tested several times, and works like a charm. It would make it easier to steal, so sshhhhh.. don't tell nobody! But it is very very hard to get at and you wouldn't know it was there if nobody told ya. But if a thieve really wants it, a flat bed trailer or truck is all they need. "

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Functional Artist replied to the thread VOR.WORX.EMC.v3.0.
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Quote Originally Posted by Stevo View Post
If the phone has enough charge to turn the bike on, that's all that's needed to get home. The bike will continue working with a dead phone once it's turned on. The Cycle Analyst provides a back-up speedometer.
Do you have back up plans (plan B) built into your design?

Hypothetical:
What if you ride your bike to your buddies house for, oh lets say a BBQ, you drop your phone & it gets busted.

Will your secret button allow you to ride 'er home?

Also, do you carry a spare fuse "just in case"?

I read where Ben Nelson got stranded before by just "blowing the fuse" & not having a spare, with him. "

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Ted Dillard replied to the thread Alta Shutters.
" I've read two books - Bottled Lightning, and Powerhouse - about battery development, and I don't share your optimism about a "next-gen battery" being developed any time soon. Sorry. I certainly think you're going to see the existing technology refined, but as for a breakthrough? Nope. I'd encourage you to read them, they're quite interesting and informative, and not particularly dry. They're also very much in line with my whole focus on emerging technology and how technology revolutions happen.

Second, I hate to disagree with you again, StevO, (well, no I don't ) but there's a hell of a lot more than the batteries that resulted in where Alta is right now. They had an enormous ramp-up, with the associated burn rate. Remember, they were originally BRD, and did a huge amount of marketing - 4 or 5 years' worth - before they actually had a product to sell. They have a great product that everybody was excited about, with some great solutions to the battery issue. https://www.altamotors.co/technology#the-alta-pack They were talent-poached by Harley Davidson, as we saw in another thread. Besides that, they haven't closed. As the article says, they've shut down operations to shut off the burn while they try to find investors. I don't think that's too unusual after a tiny company is slammed by a huge giant company that wants to rape, pillage and plunder, and leave them in the dust. I'm pretty optimistic that you haven't heard the last of them by a long shot. A quick patent search shows they have some cash in the IP bank as well: https://patents.google.com/?assignee=Faster+Faster+Inc.

I attribute a lot of what went on there as a result of the Silicon Valley startup culture. Look at Zero, Brammo and the others - they didn't hit the market with a fully evolved product, they did the "successive approximation to a goal" development. BRD/Alta seemed to want to burst on the scene with a fully-formed product, and seemed to have the funding to approach it that way. The, well, spirit of the investment required for an approach like that is totally consistent with the Silicon Valley culture. (I can back that up, but that's another book, pretty much.) The short version is you can have backers that want to see results - the Zero CEO talked about how his board and shareholders want to see profits, period - and then you have backers that want to be involved in something game-changing, revolutionary, disruptive technology, and are willing to sit on it for a while without seeing return... but even they have an end to their rope. To put it another way, a friend who lives in that world said to me, there are plenty of people with huge amounts of money out there, you just have to have an idea that's unique, that nobody else is doing, and will make them feel like they're pushing the cutting edge where nobody else is. I believe BRD/Alta had that, and they finally pulled the plug.

Remember, also, what's happening in the political spheres as well*. In the book I went into the economy of 2008-2009 and other world events, and their impact on the emerging EV technology. Regardless of your political leanings, it's fair to say we're in fairly unpredictable times right now, and it's totally credible that investors are pulling out and staying away from speculative ventures and looking for safer havens.

The deeper you look, and the harder I looked at the 2002-2012 time period, the more the point that nothing happens in a vacuum, and nothing is a simple result of one cause gets driven home.



*I sincerely DON'T want this to devolve into a political discussion. ElMoto is one of the only havens I have to read stuff that has nothing to do with what's happening in Washington, and I'd dearly appreciate it staying that way. Please and thank you. "

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Frank replied to the thread The Juiced Drag bike progress post.
" Looks great!

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