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marcexec replied to the thread Please help!!! AC-23 European EMC Test.
" Have you checked the rules for importing modified vehicles? Sucks but might be cheaper and simpler in the end going the roundabout way. Ireland for example has no MOT/Tüv for motorbikes, so I'll go to an approved Suzuki dealer to document the engine swap in a week or two, send off the form and it's all good. "

9 Minutes Ago

Stevo replied to the thread Converting pit bike to electric. Advice needed please.
" For that bike, you could fit a ME 0909 and use a Axe 4834, which I happen to have and can give you a good deal on.
Then use 6 Nissan leaf modules to power it. That would be fun toy, but still heavy. If you open up the sardine cans and change the pouch config, you could reduce the cost, weight and size of the battery pack. You would only need 3 leaf modules and connect the 12 pouches in series. You'll only end up with ~30 aHr, but only a 25 lb battery pack, roughly 9" x 12" x 5".
Don't overvolt an ME909 to 60 volts. I'd keep it closer to 50 v and it should work well. Alot of power for that little pitbike for sure. It will get up to 50 mph no problem "

8 Hours Ago

Ian replied to the thread Please help!!! AC-23 European EMC Test.
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Quote Originally Posted by marcexec View Post
Sure you can't just have a "engine swap" entered in the books? http://www.elektro-auto-umbau.de/ has some rudimentary info on (I know, Germany, not Switzerland).
Maybe the "over the border" option could be way shorter? Good luck anyway!
Thanks for that an interesting read.

That's just the problem here, Switzerland is stricter than in Germany. I contacted my county test centre, and for the price of CHF150 I just received a nice detailed letter informing me of what's involved. Part of the info states that this is a significant change to the construction to the bike, and is then classed as a new vehicle type registered under my name, no longer a Suzuki. Even if parts have TÜV/ABE certification, it's not guaranteed that Switzerland will allow it, for the pleasure of checking costs another CHF75. "

15 Hours Ago

marcexec replied to the thread Please help!!! AC-23 European EMC Test.
" Sure you can't just have a "engine swap" entered in the books? http://www.elektro-auto-umbau.de/ has some rudimentary info on (I know, Germany, not Switzerland).
Maybe the "over the border" option could be way shorter? Good luck anyway! "

1 Day Ago

Ted Dillard replied to the thread Complete Motenergy/Alltrax kit: Interest?.
" Well, I think I'm gonna keep it after all. I've got another caper brewing... "

1 Day Ago

nedfunnell replied to the thread Converting pit bike to electric. Advice needed please.
" Things tend to be a bit slow around here compared to a lot of forums. I'll give you my two cents, though:

1. 36v, 800w would be good for a kid's pit bike. It'd be fun and manageable. Range is a question of total battery size, measured in Wh (watt-hours). Watt-hours is volts times amp-hours. You'll need to decide what kind of battery you use (lead is simple and cheap but heavy, lithium is expensive and can be complex but light and powerful). Since this is your first project and just for fun, I'd actually recommend lead. You could get (3) 12v, 18ah batteries and put them in series for 36v, which would get you about 650Wh. This would be plenty to putter around the neighborhood or pits for a few hours.

2. If you find such a kit with throttle and speed controller rated for 800w, go for it. No reason it wouldn't work on a pit bike. There are plenty of kits of various wattages, but be warned that most a cheap Chinese imports. Functional, but often without a manual or documentation.

3. That depends on a few factors. Use this calculator to figure it out: https://www.4qd.co.uk/road-speed-calculator/ I would guess that you'll want a pretty big gear ratio, like 5:1. "

2 Days Ago

Ian replied to the thread Please help!!! AC-23 European EMC Test.
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Quote Originally Posted by Johnny J View Post
In Sweden all tests are only like 500 Euros and no EMC test is needed..

Sounds interesting, can I take the whole bike there and get it tested, which would then be valid in Europe?


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2 Days Ago

Johnny J replied to the thread Please help!!! AC-23 European EMC Test.
" In Sweden all tests are only like 500 Euros and no EMC test is needed.. "

2 Days Ago

Ian created the thread Please help!!! AC-23 European EMC Test.
" Hello all,

Well, things look like they're getting out of hand money wise here in Switzerland.
In my quest to electrify a Hayabusa, I'm running in to quite a bit of "Red Tape" costs:

As I'm radically changing the bike, it will have to be tested mechanically and have a new type number, around $3000.
Have to be checked out that its electrical construction is conform, another $1500.
Now I've just found out that because HPEVS have no certification for their motors and it would have to undergo an “Electromagnetic Compatibility” (EMC) test, which would be another $3000!!

This is fast becoming too expensive to carry on with!!

So my plead is: Has anyone or does someone know somebody who has had a EMC carried out in Europe, on the AC-23 and has a standard number, most probably an ISO number.

A big thanks in advance if someone does.

Regards
Ian "

3 Days Ago

Jimmy1234567 replied to the thread Converting pit bike to electric. Advice needed please.
" I will try another forum but I thought this one would be ideal for a project like mine. "

3 Days Ago

Jimmy1234567 replied to the thread Converting pit bike to electric. Advice needed please.
" Has no one got any advice on this ? "

4 Days Ago

Ted Dillard replied to the thread The ElMoto Dream Bike.
" It was a great conversation. Unfortunately, as forums go, at that point in time members came, members went, and the subject got dropped.

On the other hand, I continued my, er, obsession on my own blog, and tagged it as "The CBRe Build Thread". You can read all about it here:
https://evmc2.wordpress.com/category...-build-thread/

Alas, the build never actually happened. "

4 Days Ago

Jimmy1234567 replied to the thread Converting pit bike to electric. Advice needed please.
" Has no one got any advice on this ? "

4 Days Ago

kwikas replied to the thread The ElMoto Dream Bike.
" Waaaa....??? That's it? I was so absoluely engrossed in this thread that i didn't see how old it was. What a shame that it stopped... "

4 Days Ago

marcexec replied to the thread Arduino 12v Systems VCU.
" Well, you guys egged me on - I ordered one of the FET boards today (Aliexpress in this case, less than half the price of Banggood).
I'm still contemplating the resettable fuses, they seem to max out at 14A & 16V, which might be a bit close, especially on the voltage... "

4 Days Ago

Jimmy1234567 created the thread Converting pit bike to electric. Advice needed please.
" Hello ,
I want to convert the pit bike shown or similar to electric so that my 10 -11 year old son son can ride it without disturbing the neighbourhood. There are kids motorbikes out there for sale ready made but they are all too small for him and a bit "toyish".
The pit bike is not very large about 120 lbs without the engine and my son is not heavy and I have a few questions about the conversion.

1.) What sized motor wattage and voltage would be an ideal size to give it a good but safe turn of speed and make it perform well over cross country. I am thinking 36v 800w?

2.) Can I use a twist throttle and speed controller etc kit suitable for an electric bicycle or quad bike. Obviously for this wattage.

3.) If I keep the rear wheel exactly as it is would an ideal sprocket on the motor be 14 tooth or should it be less or more?
Thanks
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4 Days Ago

joltron created the thread For Sale: 11Ah and 50Ah Altairnano LTO Cells.
" I have a surplus amount of Altairnano LTO cells.

Approx:

10,000 11Ah cells

1,000 50Ah cells

These are grade B surplus. I've been using them for pack builds and random projects. The majority are still packaged and wrapped on skids. I'd be looking to sell medium to large quantities and am open to price discussions/offers. From my understanding, these cells were produced by Kokam for Altairnano with their (Altairnano's) LTO chemistry.

I've attached images of the sheets for each cell. If you have any questions or would like me to send the full spec sheets please feel free to reach out. Located in Indianapolis, IN. Thanks. "

4 Days Ago

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5 Days Ago

DaanRademaker replied to the thread Arduino 12v Systems VCU.
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Quote Originally Posted by marcexec View Post
Welcome to the forum!
I'm still working on getting my bike running to use it for the commute, but see the need to tidy up cabling big time now .
Have you played with Arduinos at all? If not, I'd recommend getting one from someone reputable like Banggood (it'll run your bike, right?) and have a got at the tutorials in http://tronixstuff.com/tutorials/.
Thanks for the resources, I will order a couple to start tinkering. In the meanwhile I'll keep a close eye out on your prototype! I can't believe the prices of the components either. So the MOSFETs would be used for both the indicators and the fuse circuit? "

6 Days Ago

furyphoto replied to the thread Complete Motenergy/Alltrax kit: Interest?.
" Might know a guy. Now I'll see if he is serious about getting on board, or all talk. It's a good deal. If I wasn't married to some common sense, I'd buy it. "

6 Days Ago