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    Proper Forum Etiquette

    I googled "proper forum etiquette" & learned some new words "trolls", "spamming" & "flaming"

    Here is some info that I found & wanted to share


    The Internet has become a world-wide community and in the process, innumerable forums on every subject under the sun are available where people can express their opinions. Some forums are closely moderated -- that is, someone checks every post for suitability before it is uploaded to the forum. Some forums have minimal or no moderation, only Terms of Service (TOS) that members are expected to follow. Most forums do have some sort of reporting feature for obscene or harassing posts. Still, even with a minimally-moderated forum, is there a standard of behavior? Is there actually something called forum etiquette? The answer is an unqualified yes.

    Forum etiquette means maintaining a standard of posting behavior that is acceptable and appropriate. Forum etiquette can be flexible, according to the subject of the forum, but there are certain standards most people expect others to maintain. Some lines must be drawn for the safety of all posting on the forum.

    One of the staunchest rules of forum etiquette is not posting personal information about another poster. Even if that poster has all but drawn a map to his house, posting a real name or address is considered grounds for a permanent ISP ban on most forums. This could compromise someone's safety. This is probably the most serious breach of forum etiquette and most moderators take it very seriously

    You can disagree with someone's opinions, but calling that person an idiot or a profane name is a violation of forum etiquette. Some forums are more liberal about this than others, but keeping it civil is never the wrong thing to do. Posting the same thing over and over again is called scrolling, and is also a banning offense. It is annoying in the extreme and uses up bandwidth, which someone is paying for. It is entirely unnecessary and makes the poster look immature and childish.

    Trolls are always in flagrant violation of forum etiquette and enjoy disturbing the peace at any forum where they post. Trolls tend to scroll, call names, gossip about other posters, post things that are deliberately provocative and usually that violate the forum's rules about posting. Most moderators hasten to get them banned as soon as possible, but they can sometimes do a lot of damage before this happens.

    Another violation of forum etiquette is posting in ALL CAPS. This is considered shouting and is very rude, in addition to being hard on the eyes. Something may be in caps for emphasis (e.g. I did NOT want to go!), but no post should be entirely in all caps.

    Flaming, or deliberate insults or personal rants, is also against forum etiquette. Flaming is often employed by people who are losing arguments on a forum. Their response is to personally insult the poster disagreeing with them, usually in a long, nasty post.

    This kind of behavior is why so many forums have a list of posting rules and consequences for breaking them. Some may say this behavior is more prominent among immature teens, but that is in no way the case. Many of the worst offenders are adults who should know better. The veil of anonymity seems to bring out the worst in these people, and any bullying tendencies they have tend to become magnified in the semi-protection of an anonymous forum.

    Most of the rest of forum etiquette involves using the Golden Rule: treat others as you would like to be treated. Behaving as a reasonable adult, even in the face of being flamed, is always the best course of action. If a poster becomes harassing, obscene or personal, do not retaliate. Instead, cut and paste the offensive post(s) into an e-mail and quickly report it to the moderator or forum administrator.
    From: https://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-forum-etiquette.htm

    Here is more info from another source

    What's the etiquette for posting to online forums? There are no clear rules, but below are some guidelines you may want to follow:
    1.Read the forums rules and guidelines before posting for the first time.
    2.Search the other posts to see if your topic is already covered.
    3.Use a meaningful title for your thread.
    4.Do not use a forum to promote your product, service or business.
    5.Be civil. Personal differences should be handled through email or IM and not through posts displayed to everyone.
    6.Stay on topic.
    7.Ignore spammers, respond to them personally and not through the board, or report them.
    8.Do not submit a post that requires readers to download a large attachment. Either explain the attachment or, better yet, provide a link to the information.
    9.Use plain text over HTML if you want your post to be readable by everyone.
    10.In order to be understood by most people, use correct spelling, grammar and avoid slang unless you know the word or phrase will be understood by other members.
    11.Do not double post (post the same message twice in one thread) or cross post (place the same message across several forums).
    12.Act in a give and take manner; help others as often as or more than you ask for help.
    13.Do not use all caps or SHOUT in your posts. In addition, one exclamation point is enough.
    14.When replying to a post, do not quote more from the previous post than you have to.
    15.Do not post new problems on someone else's thread and interrupt a topic of discussion.
    16.Do not use someone else s thread for a private conversation.
    17.Most forums prohibit warez, cracks or illegal downloading of software and similar topics.
    18.Watch your sense of humor, posts may be read by people from a variety of backgrounds and ages.
    19.Do not use a huge and annoying signature, a modest signature is fine, moderators may remove large ones anyway.
    20.Do not post any information that you want private. Posts should not contain personal, identifiable information or content embarrassing to others.
    21.Do not post content that violates a copyright.
    22.Do not post empty or useless responses, such as just lol or cool. Only post responses when you have something to contribute.
    23.Write concisely and do not ramble.
    24.Do not use words like urgent or important in your subject line, be patient.
    25.Do not chastise newbies.
    From: https://www.toptenreviews.com/servic...tiquette-tips/

    & here is even more info from yet another source

    Netiquette: Good Forum Etiquette

    An important term that you should be aware of and know about is "netiquette". This term is a contraction of Internet etiquette, and it's really the etiquette guidelines for posting messages to online services. Netiquette covers not only rules to maintain civility in discussions (i.e., avoiding flames), but also special guidelines unique to the electronic nature of forum messages. In most cases, netiquette is enforced by the forum administrator. One of the biggest issues facing those unfamiliar with using online forums is that they may not even be aware of what constitutes netiquette. To get you started with using online forums here are some tips to get you started and keep you from being banned on forums;
    •Do Stay On Topic. Many people use forums for knowledge gathering as well as social interactions. Forum posts and threads can be read by hundreds or thousands of users, and as such it's important to read the topic of a particular discussion and keep your posts related to that topic. If you are looking for general chat and comments, look in the forums for an off-topic discussion area.
    •Don't Be A Troll. A "troll" is a person who breaks netiquette on a regular basis by posted inflammatory messages (called a flame) when responding to other users in the forums. Trolls are also users who will find older flame-filled threads on a forum and reply to them just to get users worked up again.
    •Do Turn That Caps Lock Key Off. When you type a post in all capital letters you are going to annoy other forum users. Capital letters are viewed as shouting when communicating online, and its considered rude to do.
    •Don't Double Post. When using Internet forums it annoys other users when you post the same message more than once, in more than on discussion thread. If you make a post and no one replies, then leave it at that. Reposting the same message or slightly edited versions of the same message will not earn you any respect from other forum users, and in fact it may earn you warnings from the moderator.
    •Do Search Before Posting. Before posting a question or asking for help on a particular topic, do use the forum search option to make sure this question has not already been asked and answered by other users. Even if your question does not appear in the thread list, it may still be available as an archived topic in the forum.
    From: https://www.webopedia.com/DidYouKnow..._etiquette.asp

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    Is this real? You just learned what a troll is?
    I hope the admins see this. Is there any good reason why you are trying to educate educated people on a forum dedicated to electric vehicles? We don't need updates in what internet trolls are.

    How can I block this guy?
    Quote Originally Posted by Functional Artist View Post
    I googled "proper forum etiquette" & learned some new words "trolls", "spamming" & "flaming"

    Here is some info that I found & wanted to share


    The Internet has become a world-wide community and in the process, innumerable forums on every subject under the sun are available where people can express their opinions. Some forums are closely moderated -- that is, someone checks every post for suitability before it is uploaded to the forum. Some forums have minimal or no moderation, only Terms of Service (TOS) that members are expected to follow. Most forums do have some sort of reporting feature for obscene or harassing posts. Still, even with a minimally-moderated forum, is there a standard of behavior? Is there actually something called forum etiquette? The answer is an unqualified yes.

    Forum etiquette means maintaining a standard of posting behavior that is acceptable and appropriate. Forum etiquette can be flexible, according to the subject of the forum, but there are certain standards most people expect others to maintain. Some lines must be drawn for the safety of all posting on the forum.

    One of the staunchest rules of forum etiquette is not posting personal information about another poster. Even if that poster has all but drawn a map to his house, posting a real name or address is considered grounds for a permanent ISP ban on most forums. This could compromise someone's safety. This is probably the most serious breach of forum etiquette and most moderators take it very seriously

    You can disagree with someone's opinions, but calling that person an idiot or a profane name is a violation of forum etiquette. Some forums are more liberal about this than others, but keeping it civil is never the wrong thing to do. Posting the same thing over and over again is called scrolling, and is also a banning offense. It is annoying in the extreme and uses up bandwidth, which someone is paying for. It is entirely unnecessary and makes the poster look immature and childish.

    Trolls are always in flagrant violation of forum etiquette and enjoy disturbing the peace at any forum where they post. Trolls tend to scroll, call names, gossip about other posters, post things that are deliberately provocative and usually that violate the forum's rules about posting. Most moderators hasten to get them banned as soon as possible, but they can sometimes do a lot of damage before this happens.

    Another violation of forum etiquette is posting in ALL CAPS. This is considered shouting and is very rude, in addition to being hard on the eyes. Something may be in caps for emphasis (e.g. I did NOT want to go!), but no post should be entirely in all caps.

    Flaming, or deliberate insults or personal rants, is also against forum etiquette. Flaming is often employed by people who are losing arguments on a forum. Their response is to personally insult the poster disagreeing with them, usually in a long, nasty post.

    This kind of behavior is why so many forums have a list of posting rules and consequences for breaking them. Some may say this behavior is more prominent among immature teens, but that is in no way the case. Many of the worst offenders are adults who should know better. The veil of anonymity seems to bring out the worst in these people, and any bullying tendencies they have tend to become magnified in the semi-protection of an anonymous forum.

    Most of the rest of forum etiquette involves using the Golden Rule: treat others as you would like to be treated. Behaving as a reasonable adult, even in the face of being flamed, is always the best course of action. If a poster becomes harassing, obscene or personal, do not retaliate. Instead, cut and paste the offensive post(s) into an e-mail and quickly report it to the moderator or forum administrator.
    From: https://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-forum-etiquette.htm

    Here is more info from another source

    What's the etiquette for posting to online forums? There are no clear rules, but below are some guidelines you may want to follow:
    1.Read the forums rules and guidelines before posting for the first time.
    2.Search the other posts to see if your topic is already covered.
    3.Use a meaningful title for your thread.
    4.Do not use a forum to promote your product, service or business.
    5.Be civil. Personal differences should be handled through email or IM and not through posts displayed to everyone.
    6.Stay on topic.
    7.Ignore spammers, respond to them personally and not through the board, or report them.
    8.Do not submit a post that requires readers to download a large attachment. Either explain the attachment or, better yet, provide a link to the information.
    9.Use plain text over HTML if you want your post to be readable by everyone.
    10.In order to be understood by most people, use correct spelling, grammar and avoid slang unless you know the word or phrase will be understood by other members.
    11.Do not double post (post the same message twice in one thread) or cross post (place the same message across several forums).
    12.Act in a give and take manner; help others as often as or more than you ask for help.
    13.Do not use all caps or SHOUT in your posts. In addition, one exclamation point is enough.
    14.When replying to a post, do not quote more from the previous post than you have to.
    15.Do not post new problems on someone else's thread and interrupt a topic of discussion.
    16.Do not use someone else s thread for a private conversation.
    17.Most forums prohibit warez, cracks or illegal downloading of software and similar topics.
    18.Watch your sense of humor, posts may be read by people from a variety of backgrounds and ages.
    19.Do not use a huge and annoying signature, a modest signature is fine, moderators may remove large ones anyway.
    20.Do not post any information that you want private. Posts should not contain personal, identifiable information or content embarrassing to others.
    21.Do not post content that violates a copyright.
    22.Do not post empty or useless responses, such as just lol or cool. Only post responses when you have something to contribute.
    23.Write concisely and do not ramble.
    24.Do not use words like urgent or important in your subject line, be patient.
    25.Do not chastise newbies.
    From: https://www.toptenreviews.com/servic...tiquette-tips/

    & here is even more info from yet another source

    Netiquette: Good Forum Etiquette

    An important term that you should be aware of and know about is "netiquette". This term is a contraction of Internet etiquette, and it's really the etiquette guidelines for posting messages to online services. Netiquette covers not only rules to maintain civility in discussions (i.e., avoiding flames), but also special guidelines unique to the electronic nature of forum messages. In most cases, netiquette is enforced by the forum administrator. One of the biggest issues facing those unfamiliar with using online forums is that they may not even be aware of what constitutes netiquette. To get you started with using online forums here are some tips to get you started and keep you from being banned on forums;
    •Do Stay On Topic. Many people use forums for knowledge gathering as well as social interactions. Forum posts and threads can be read by hundreds or thousands of users, and as such it's important to read the topic of a particular discussion and keep your posts related to that topic. If you are looking for general chat and comments, look in the forums for an off-topic discussion area.
    •Don't Be A Troll. A "troll" is a person who breaks netiquette on a regular basis by posted inflammatory messages (called a flame) when responding to other users in the forums. Trolls are also users who will find older flame-filled threads on a forum and reply to them just to get users worked up again.
    •Do Turn That Caps Lock Key Off. When you type a post in all capital letters you are going to annoy other forum users. Capital letters are viewed as shouting when communicating online, and its considered rude to do.
    •Don't Double Post. When using Internet forums it annoys other users when you post the same message more than once, in more than on discussion thread. If you make a post and no one replies, then leave it at that. Reposting the same message or slightly edited versions of the same message will not earn you any respect from other forum users, and in fact it may earn you warnings from the moderator.
    •Do Search Before Posting. Before posting a question or asking for help on a particular topic, do use the forum search option to make sure this question has not already been asked and answered by other users. Even if your question does not appear in the thread list, it may still be available as an archived topic in the forum.
    From: https://www.webopedia.com/DidYouKnow..._etiquette.asp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicman View Post
    Is this real? You just learned what a troll is?
    I hope the admins see this. Is there any good reason why you are trying to educate educated people on a forum dedicated to electric vehicles? We don't need updates in what internet trolls are.

    How can I block this guy?

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    Update

    That was easy! Blocked!

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    Yeah he went from new member to banned in 2 weeks. That's gotta be a record... then his thread got locked in a day. But, go ahead, tell me how to behave on a forum.

    The problem with blocking him is you have to be logged in for the forum to know your prefs. If you're not logged in, you're gonna see him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevo View Post
    I once met a guy who had been married 7 times. I've tried it twice.
    Some guys just never learn
    BWAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAA!

    (yes, that's right, I'm yelling, internet style)
    Last edited by Ted Dillard; 10 September 2018 at 1005.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Dillard View Post
    BWAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAA!

    (yes, that's right, I'm yelling, internet style)
    I don't understand why you used all caps. What is the word Bwahhahahahahaha mean?
    I'll have to research this online or I'll never know for sure.


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    ARE YOU "TROLLING" ME??? (hold on a sec)

    I'M GONNA "FLAME" YOU!!! (i think, wait, google is slow today, hold on...)
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    FWIW, Kevin (Functional Artist) posted this on DIY Electric Cars: https://www.diyelectriccar.com/forum...ma-198475.html

    I messaged him and invited him to contact Mike and discuss the situation - no word yet, but I respect the guy for posting the apology.
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