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    Kelly KLS8080 Auto Identify Help

    Hey all, I have a 96V, 300A Kelly KLS8080IPS that I'm trying to get running. I'm in contact with Kelly but so far they haven't been able to resolve my issue.

    As far as I know (and according to Kelly) all my motor and sensor parameters are set correctly. I write "170" to the identification angle field, wait, power cycle the controller, and then it begins its routine. It appears to simply be stepping through a full 6 commutations. After that, you're supposed to get a "reset error" in the monitor window, but this never comes. I've waited a long time and it never goes to "85" nor throws any error or anything.

    Has anyone experienced this and resolved it? Is there a way to manually configure the identification angle? Is there CLI that I can access and get more information as to what's going on?

    Thanks.

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    After Reset, If you turn the throttle does the motor spin?
    If that's the case then i wouldn't sweat it unless you find that your efficiency is terrible.

    Also if you are using the app try using a laptop or vice versa?
    I have found tablets to be more communication stable then using an android phone

    good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmcnall View Post
    After Reset, If you turn the throttle does the motor spin?
    If that's the case then i wouldn't sweat it unless you find that your efficiency is terrible.
    It will twitch and/or whine (I watch the current to make sure it's not doing anything bad), but not spin. I was able to get it to spin if I turn the field drive off (rotor un-magnetized), but I think in that case it's sort of behaving like an induction motor. If I apply any load whatsoever it stops, naturally.

    Quote Originally Posted by cmcnall View Post
    Also if you are using the app try using a laptop or vice versa?
    I have found tablets to be more communication stable then using an android phone

    good luck.
    I'm using a laptop. Though sometimes it has trouble connecting initially, I do see throttle input reads and stuff like that so I know I'm talking to the controller.

    Thanks.

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    It's been a while since I setup my KLS-8080I on my bike, so unfortunately, I don't remember much of the specifics now.

    however, when I did it, I made a video. I'm not sure if it'll help, but maybe there will be something.



    Good Luck.
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    Ha, thanks, I've watched your video twice now looking for clues/differences. One is obviously the I vs IPS distinction but beyond that I'm doing what you're doing and my motor behaves just like yours during the "identify" routine.

    Thanks, your videos are helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ldopa_chicago View Post
    Ha, thanks, I've watched your video twice now looking for clues/differences. One is obviously the I vs IPS distinction but beyond that I'm doing what you're doing and my motor behaves just like yours during the "identify" routine.

    Thanks, your videos are helpful.
    Bummer. It was a long shot.

    From what you mention though, I don't think I ever received a "reset error" in the window either. I just reset the controller and re-read the config.

    Have you tried swapping the phase wires and re-trying the autoconfig? (I'm absolutely grasping at straws here, but since the magic doesn't seem to be working, this is something i'd try).
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    No, I haven't swapped phase wires yet, but that's definitely worth trying. Theoretically it shouldn't matter but...I have nothing to lose!

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    yes, exactly.

    maybe also make sure the hall sensor wires are correct and/or swap them up too.
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    Try raising the CPU power to 24 volts I had trouble at 12 volts very similar to what you're getting
    Trying to Change the old school ways of doing things
    But I never Never try to break the laws of Physics
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    Quote Originally Posted by markcycle View Post
    Try raising the CPU power to 24 volts I had trouble at 12 volts very similar to what you're getting
    Right! I run mine at 24V on @markcycle's recommendation (well from running a my original Kelly KBL controller).
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