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    Brammo Sales?

    I'll start. Has anyone heard, or can anyone substantiate the rumor I just heard that Brammo, to date, has sold only 4 Empulses in CA, as per the DMV?

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    Seems like there are more CA Empulse owners than that just on the Brammo owners forum. But I don't know for certain.

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    The search I did came up with only 3 who said they were from CA. I don't know any other way to verify that via that forum.

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    I have been wondering the same thing. I know of at least three Brammo Empulse owners in the Bay Area just from my personal observation. I find it really hard to believe that only 4 of those models have been sold in California this year. You would think that sales would be even greater in the LA area. Having said that, the Brammo Owners website activity sure seems to be pretty slow recently, especially compared to the amount of Zero owner posts on the Electric Motorcycle Forum website (which also has a Brammo forum that is about as active as the Sahara Desert during the summer). I wonder what is going on?
    Richard - Current bikes: 2018 16.6 kWh Zero S, 2016 BMW R1200RS, 2011 Royal Enfield 500, 2009 BMW F650GS, 2005 Triumph T-100 Bonneville, 2002 Yamaha FZ1 (FZS1000N) and a 1978 Honda Kick 'N Go Senior.

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    I guess living in sunny California, the world looks brighter. But here in the hinterlands you wouldn't be asking that question. Here, motorcycle shops are hanging on by the skin of their teeth. Most people riding bikes are doing so to save money commuting. If they had the money for an Empulse, they'd buy a Hyundai.

    Had the lithium revolution happened back in the 1990's, the move to EV's would have gone a lot faster.

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    Where do you live, Warren? The Zero dealer I spoke to about coming to the Mt Washington event was loathe to send even one salesperson to a two-day event to sell electric motorcycles (even though I can pretty much guarantee over 500 people will see his bikes). As far as his experience goes, he said the Zeros take about 8 times the amount of effort and time to sell as a gas bike (he's a full-service, multi-brand MC dealer). I could hardly argue with him... and New England is a tougher market for just about everything I know of than most of the rest of the country.

    They don't call it the "bleeding edge" for nuthin'.
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    It's an easier sell in California because of cost and availability. There's a **** ton of wealthy industries out there, so that place is flush with cash. From what I can see, NYC is the only northeastern city that even has a healthy, growing economy at this point*. Also, most of them are manufactured out there, which made it easy to find a used 2010 zero when I was looking about a year ago. If I didn't have that option, I never would have even considered paying full price for a new one**.

    * And maybe Boston? I hear mixed things about that place
    ** I'm considering buying a better one next year and using the 2010 for experiments.

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    Ted,

    I live on worn out tobacco land, in central Virginia. Last month we did a forced march, in the car, to visit friends and relatives in the northeast. All the way to the Canadian border we saw one electric vehicle, a Tesla S coming south across the Potomac.

    From New Jersey to Maine I saw more full-dress Harleys than I have see in my life, and I grew up near Milwaukee! There was a Harley dealer about ever 50 miles. My bud in Maine says nobody on his road makes $20K a year, but there is a summer camp for kids down the road that charges $12K for 5 weeks.

    All those Harleys belong to "summer people", who keep them at their summer house, or haul them in enclosed trailers behind their gigantic RV's.

    Which makes me think Harley is on the right track with their proposed new electric. I mean, if you are at an RV park already, with 220-240 volt outlets everywhere, and money is no object, why not 30 kWh hog?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ___ View Post
    * And maybe Boston? I hear mixed things about that place
    Boston is awesome if you're in medical tech or one of the financial markets. Which I'm not. The cost of living is something like the third highest in the country.

    And the Harley thing? I don't even begin to get it. Except that Harley guys are completely into my bike whenever they see it. They routinely flag me down on the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ___ View Post
    There's a **** ton ...
    Whenever anyone posts that, I always wonder if they're saying a ****-ton or a ****-ton. Is it just me?

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