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    Oops! Sorry. I was remembering the bevel gear noise, and thinking the original had shaft drive, but that was not the case.
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    There is a 40-second video providing the sound of the new LiveWire in this article. Sounds just like the sound an Energica makes to me. This article also has lots of adjectives describing the Wire, but few concrete facts or specifications. The only thing that caught my attention is that all H-D dealers will have a public Level 3 DC fast charging station at each shop. Good luck getting their dealers out in the boondocks to pay for those : https://electricmotorcycles.news/har...at-eicma-2018/
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    Actually, they said any dealer that handles the Livewire will have to install one, which pretty much ensures that no dealer outside southern California will carry them.

    On the other hand, GM said the same thing about the Chevy Bolt. It has been a year and a half since we bought ours. The dealer we bought from, and the local dealer who did a software update, have yet to install theirs.

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    From that story, the HD press release:

    "Charging can be completed using the on-board Level 1 charger that plugs into a standard household outlet with a power cord that stores below the motorcycle seat. LiveWire can also be charged with a Level 2 or Level 3, DC Fast Charge (DCFC), through a SAE J1772 connector, (USA), or CCS2 – IEC type 2 charging connector in international markets. All Harley-Davidson dealers who sell the LiveWire motorcycle will offer a public charging station with DCFC."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Dillard View Post

    LiveWire can also be charged with a Level 2 or Level 3, DC Fast Charge (DCFC), through a SAE J1772 connector, (USA)
    Good luck getting DC out of an SAE J1772 connector. The J1772 is strictly 120/240 AC. DC charging, in the USA, requires either a CCS or CHademo connector.

    Doesn't give me much confidence when they don't even know what connector they need for DC charging. :-)
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    Here is a link to a long, interesting and informative history article about the Motor Company: https://jalopnik.com/how-harley-davi...-it-1830332227

    But if you want to read the author's speculation regarding the future of the LiveWire you will need to go to the very end of his blog.
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    Pretty much the entire debacle called "Harley Davidson" post about 1966 can be summed up in this comment:

    “'We’re in the fashion business,' Willie Davidson, the grandson of Harley co-founder William A. Davidson told People in 1981."
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    The H-D LiveWire is getting closer to entering the market: https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/e...P_BB1_livewire

    But will H-D also offer a German WWI steel helmet with a lightning bolt on the top instead of the usual spike for LiveWire owners to wear while riding the new bike?
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    $30K- Um NO!

    I actually really like the look of the bike, and the test ride was pretty fun, but Thirty Thousand!? How is it any more special than a Zero at half the price?

    They are going to sell about 6 of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by furyphoto View Post
    $30K- Um NO!

    I actually really like the look of the bike, and the test ride was pretty fun, but Thirty Thousand!? How is it any more special than a Zero at half the price?

    They are going to sell about 6 of them.
    Did I miss something? Where did it say that the price would be $30K USD? I can certainly believe that H-D would price the bike like that, but I didn't see that in the FAQ section. (However, the site does seem to have been updated since I looked at it a few hours ago.

    However, I did see the "city range" of 110 miles. That is just slightly over half of the city range of my Zero. I also note that you can charge from a standard L2 charging station, but it will only charge at L1 rates. Not very useful to anyone riding any distance and Level 3 stations are not all that frequently encountered out in the wild.

    I would say that you would be getting more for your money buying an Energica. Plus, you get Italian styling.
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