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    Quote Originally Posted by -UP- View Post
    What controller would you use with that? One of my first plans was to use ME0913, but I couldn't find a suitable controller.
    He's suggesting a Sevcon Gen4, but it requires an external programmer and can be be a pain in the butt to program yourself.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sevcon-Gen4-...item3aaa1e7560

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    Allright, the Motenergy is back in the game. I was reading earlier that the Sevcon Gen4 is possibly the only controller that works with these motors, but I couldn't find a price for the controller. Forgot to check ebay

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    I read from some (possibly endless-sphere) topic that the Kelly couldn't offer low end torque. Also that the Sevcon would be hard to program.

    Still, having one motor would possibly be easier to make work than two. There are some advantages in the dual motor setup, but also many potential issues.

    Somehow I would like to have brushless over brushed.. ME0913 would be much cheaper than ME 1304, but that extra power and water cooling would be quite pro...

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    Quote Originally Posted by -UP- View Post
    I read from some (possibly endless-sphere) topic that the Kelly couldn't offer low end torque. Also that the Sevcon would be hard to program.

    Still, having one motor would possibly be easier to make work than two. There are some advantages in the dual motor setup, but also many potential issues.

    Somehow I would like to have brushless over brushed.. ME0913 would be much cheaper than ME 1304, but that extra power and water cooling would be quite pro...
    Ok some sites an people say you can't run the Motenergy with the Kellys. You can and they work very well, I have been helping produce goKart conversion kits with 907 and 916 motors as options all with Kelly controllers.
    If you look here http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums...41173p109.html Danny is using modified (very modified) 916's in a dual motor setup with dual Kelly controllers. If his race bike "lacks torque" I am a monkeys uncle.
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    So out of the three options, ME0913&Kelly is now at top..

    LEM-200 would be lighter and simpler, but somehow the brushless motor isn't that appealing, even if I never drive enough to change the brushes.

    Dual RV-120-Pro (possibly with LYEN controllers) would be cool, but there is potential for many issues here.

    ME0913 is a bit heavier, but the weight would be in the center of the bike.
    Why is there two different specs for ME1304? This might bee interesting, too.

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    one is a 20 turn and the other 28 turns.

    peak power 52kw and 62kw

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    Quote Originally Posted by -UP- View Post
    So out of the three options, ME0913&Kelly is now at top..

    LEM-200 would be lighter and simpler, but somehow the brushless motor isn't that appealing, even if I never drive enough to change the brushes.

    Dual RV-120-Pro (possibly with LYEN controllers) would be cool, but there is potential for many issues here.

    ME0913 is a bit heavier, but the weight would be in the center of the bike.
    Why is there two different specs for ME1304? This might bee interesting, too.
    Also note that the ME1304 has a sine/cos encoder for the Sevcon controller and the ME0913 has Hall sensors for the Kelly controller.
    Also the 1304 is liquid cooled.
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    Watercooling wouldn't be a problem, programmin Sevcon propably would..

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    Quote Originally Posted by -UP- View Post
    Watercooling wouldn't be a problem, programmin Sevcon propably would..
    You can get packages where the supplier will program the Sevcon for you. However you will still not be able to alter any parameters unless you get the handheld unit.
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