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Thread: $899 Chinese N1 Lithium escoot, 100km range vs $4100 Gogoro Taiwan (no batteries)

              
   
   
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    $899 Chinese N1 Lithium escoot, 100km range vs $4100 Gogoro Taiwan (no batteries)

    See the Gogoro overtaking everything on the road, even with the Gogoro tiny and skinny tire profile:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4U_7wIMPWQ


    However, imo it has flawed open-belt transmission, like the ill-fated Egovehicles.com's Ego Cycle 2 aka Ego-2 electric scooter.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qax2Evwk5Xg



    $4100 and $30/month battery swap fee doesn't include the battery pack, and additional charges will be coming "later".


    But, at the same time, a big Chinese company launched the N1 electric scooter, with the same Panasonic lithium cells, which includes the batteries, 100 km range.

    The N1 looks very, very solid. They sold nearly 16,000 units on launch day. According to one article, that is tiny, because the "Emma" Chinese electric bike company sells many millions every year.

    How about importing the N1 just for the battery packs, for use with elmoto's?

    Also, how does the N1 manufacturer manage to create what is apparently a hyper-efficient e-cycle?

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    The Gogoro early adopters will be guinea pigs for the BMS ... only Tesla imo has managed to make a BMS that really works on high voltage series-parallel battery packs.

    Gogoro looks cute, but those skinny, small tires, won't have the emergency and high-speed handling of the wide/big tires found on the Taiwan-made Kymco Super 9, a 85 kph gas scooter that is considered the best-ever 50cc made.

    Gogoro company is said to be aiming for the 18-26 year olds -- too young to know much about electric motos, or BMS problems.

    $4100 and only a 2 year warranty, too. The gas scooters in Taiwan sell for $500 according to articles.

    'whatcha think?

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    I've had a chance to check out and test ride the N1 scooters here in Beijing. Great marketing, but the quality isn't a lot better than other electric scooters in the China market. They've spent a bit of time on redesigning it so it looks unique thought, which helps push the sales i'm sure.

    They have 2x packs specs at 20ah and 26ah, but there's no way the bike gets 100km per charge at regular cruising. Again, it's part of the marketing which is counterproductive to the whole industry. One of the designers I talked with said it might do 100km moving at 10km/h with a girl riding it, but realistically, it's not going to be able to hit those numbers. Science still takes over.

    Overall, it's a decent powertrain with a nicely designed pack, and it's 1 step forward in the right direction in popularizing higher quality e-scooters.

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