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    Why Mugen Shinden is Racing

    This is a really detailed interview with Colin Whittamore of Mugen Euro. If you're interested in why Mugen has been working on this project for years, their relationship to Honda, this will clear up a lot of questions for you.

    https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocia...he-future-hold

    Some key points:

    Is Mugen’s development work at the TT on behalf of and fed back into Honda?

    “No. While 99% of every programme Mugen does is connected with or on behalf of Honda, the one programme that’s 100% Mugen is this one. It’s internally funded and resourced – which isn’t to say as part of the network process if Honda knocked one the door and said, ‘Tell us all the secrets of the Shinden,’ we certainly say, ‘Yes, what would you like to know?’ Because part of what we’re doing is making ourselves more valuable to Honda in the future anyway, by setting ourselves up as a company with that technology.”


    ...and as far as the tech goes:

    “The first Shinden in 2012 was mostly off-the-shelf components. We bought the battery, inverter and motor, and just packaged them in a nice chassis. But we’ve now arrived at a point where we have the expertise ourselves: the motor is a Mugen motor, designed, manufactured, assembled and tested in-house in Japan, and we’ve done the same with the inverter, and even with the battery Mugen are a technical partner with Maxell, as opposed to just buying it in. The individual cells come from Maxell, but the make-up of the pack is almost as important – and that’s designed and assembled by Mugen.”

    I'm going to have to reference my own book, but I believe that motor was designed ("in Japan") with the help of the Mission guys. I'll get back to you on that.

    But yeah, this answers a lot of questions and speculation by keyboard jockeys (myself included) back when they started at IOM.
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    Right. Page 197:

    Also in 2014, Mission got one other choice, and fairly important project.
    Mugen (Europe), after fielding entries in the TTZero for 3 years, hired the
    Mission team to provide the drivetrain for their entries in the 2014 IOM
    race. Mugen is a very interesting company, and their electric race bikes
    were no-holds-barred, no-expense-spared, ground-up builds using the
    highest grade of skills and materials. Widely reported as a Honda-backed
    project, (though emphatically denied), Mugen hit the IOM grid with
    podium results from the very first year.

    As the competition grew stiffer, primarily from MotoCzysz, Mugen
    tapped Mission (now completely off the racing circuits) to team with them
    to up the ante. Not only were the bikes impressive, but they were credible
    enough to attract the best riders, and in 2015 Mugen placed first and second,
    ridden by John McGuinness and Bruce Anstey, and broke the previous
    year’s lap records at 115.597 mph and 113.642 mph respectively.
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    At least Mugen is still around and apparently doing well, which is more than you can say about Mission Motors (or whatever they were calling themselves when they vaporized).
    Richard - Current bikes: 2018 16.6 kWh Zero S, 2016 BMW R1200RS, 2011 Royal Enfield 500, 2009 BMW F650GS, 2005 Triumph T-100 Bonneville, 2002 Yamaha FZ1 (FZS1000N) and a 1978 Honda Kick 'N Go Senior.

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