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    Is Enertrac Corp. legit?

    Hi,

    Has anyone bought an Enertrac motor lately?

    Their website says almost nothing about what they sell.
    http://enertrac.net/product.php#b

    Their website says to email them for pricing, (Email for pricing on the Dual motor 602/603)
    but they have not answered my emails,
    and I see in another forum that they didn't answer someone else's, either.

    Their newest YouTube videos are 4 years old, and show a few builds, but nothing about the specs of their motors.

    Their "product specs" PDF shows only amp draw data for a 325-lb motorcycle.
    No HP curves, torque curves, amp curves, motor dimensions or specs, just continuous and peak power.
    They show only one motor (a dual 602/603) and it looks like the solitary price that they show is not for that dual motor, it is for a single one.
    They show solid wheels, but talk about lacing up spokes.

    What's up with this company?
    Are they really in business?
    If so, do they sell more than just the dual motors; i.e. a single motor?
    Why doesn't their website show any engineering data about what they sell?
    How would any serious engineer (me) figure out if it is adequate for my application?

    One page of their website says their motors should not be used on a vehicle of over 400 lbs.
    But I am also running an 2000-lb. electric Geo Metro conversion on a 14KW (contin.) motor,
    and performance is just fine. (versus Enertrac's 20/40KW ratings.)
    The few numbers they DO cite on their website just don't look right.

    I have looked at some of their competitors' offerings,
    and it seems like they are built of either unobtainium (Protean) or hyperexpensium (Yasa.)

    I would buy one of Enertrac's motors in a heartbeat,
    but I'd like to know a little bit about what I'm buying first...!

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    Yes, they're a business, but they're a small business run by a great guy named Mark Gelbien. They did at one time sell dual and single motors. I don't know what they currently have to offer.

    Did you call the number at the bottom of the page? (631) 406-6583

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    Check your messages, I have Mark's personal email.
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    There are a bunch of people on this site who have bought Enertrac motors (myself included). It's been a few years since I've spoken with Mark, but he was a great guy to work with when I was working on my bike.
    EVs: 2007 Zapino Scooter, Honda VF500 Conversion (electriceptor.wordpress.com), Red Nissan LEAF SL (Arrived!)

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    holy crap, is that really you, _Tango?
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    Hi, All,
    Thanks for the info...I called him, and he sent me an email with models and prices and a set of motor curves...wonder why he doesn't post this stuff online? It would probably save him quite a bit of emailing...! LOL...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Dillard View Post
    holy crap, is that really you, _Tango?
    Nope. Nothing to see here. I'm back under my rock.
    EVs: 2007 Zapino Scooter, Honda VF500 Conversion (electriceptor.wordpress.com), Red Nissan LEAF SL (Arrived!)

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    New builds can be found on
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/Enertrac/
    Trying to Change the old school ways of doing things
    But I never Never try to break the laws of Physics
    http://www.enertrac.net
    http://www.evalbum.com/preview.php?vid=1543
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEldNmBgIF0
    http://www.evalbum.com/2568

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    Because individual builders need to be qualified at some level, so I like to talk to or email potential customers. If I feel they are building something unsafe then I won't sell to them. Motorcycles can be dangerous and some builders have no clue and wind up getting frustrated and failing and they never blame themself for the failure. Guess I should update the web page
    New builds can be found on https://www.facebook.com/groups/Enertrac/

    Trying to Change the old school ways of doing things
    But I never Never try to break the laws of Physics
    http://www.enertrac.net
    http://www.evalbum.com/preview.php?vid=1543
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEldNmBgIF0
    http://www.evalbum.com/2568

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