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    World's first electric e-bike "scrambler"

    Here is the latest big e-bike idea, an electric "scrambler". The "World's first". Kind of like a heavy electric mountain bike. But I do like the seat. Not a bad price for an e-bike, considering what you are getting in the way of a chassis and power train, though.

    It is amazing how many random electric vehicles are being introduced on the internet. It will be even more amazing if more than a few of these big ideas ever make money for their inventors. https://electricmotorcycles.news/sur...ambler-e-bike/
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    It's not a terrible design, but claiming "world's first" is some pretty bold marketing. As in "look out, don't step in the marketing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandres View Post
    It's not a terrible design, but claiming "world's first" is some pretty bold marketing. As in "look out, don't step in the marketing".
    It's also NOT a Scrambler, That part is apparently "marketing" too.


    It's the world's first Electric Scrambler in the same way the Rumble is the world's first Electric Cafe Racer.
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    Oh for the love of ****.

    It's not even remotely reminiscent of a scrambler. What a load of shit. It's also ugly as ****. There are also several other bikes that have been around for years that are just like it if not better. Stealth, for one. https://www.stealthelectricbikes.com...h-b-52-bomber/

    THIS is a ****ing scrambler:



    "Created by international award winning motorcycle designer Michael Uhlarik, the SURU Scrambler aims to expand the potential market for powered two wheelers. “There are so many people who love the look and feel of cafe racer and dirt tracker style motorcycles” observed Uhlarik. "

    First, Michael of all people should know better, but I've had my issues with stuff he's said and done with Amarok. (He's been nothing but a perfect gentleman to me, though. But shit, Mike, just stop it.)

    Second, if I hear some numbnuts refer to almost anything they want as a "cafe bike" I think my head is gonna essplode.
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    I grew up in the 1960-70's (I'm an old fart) and I always thought a cafe racer was any street legal "race bike" modified from anything... anything goes... no modification restrictions whatsoever. When I think of "scramblers", I think of Hare and Hound Enduros (sometimes called Scramblers) of yesteryear. The kind of races Steve McQueen is famous for, and my good old friend Roger Langevin used to compete with. Those were the days!
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    I'm about as old as you are.

    Everything I can say about cafe bikes is here: https://evmc2.wordpress.com/2013/03/...nd-obsessions/
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    We never limited Cafe bikes just to Ducatis only. An example of an exceptional Cafe bike could be a modified Honda 400-4 Supersport, or any of the Honda 4 cylinder supersport family could be cafe bikes with the right handlebars or clip-ons, 1/4 fairing, solo seat, rear sets, exhaust, carb and suspension mods, drilled out everything! We've come along way since the 70's!!

    There would be any number of different make and model cafe bikes parked at the Rock Store or Newcomb's Ranch every Sunday morning. Some of them were amazing too!
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    It's funny Ted, the other night when I posted, I did a search for scramblers and that Triumph image is the "THIS is a Scrambler"photo I picked to post too, then I got lazy and didn't post it.

    This is my ICE Daily Driver, I call it a Cafe Racer:
    Highly modified Honda 400 Cruiser originally, chopped and lowered to make it more of a street racer. That's what the roots of Cafe is to me, whatever bike you can get your hands on, lightened and modified to go as fast as possible. This one will do 130km/80Mi per hour. It's actually been modified more since this photo was taken, and I gots plans for more new stuff this winter too. (nervous to try a Ton run until I upgrade the suspension)


    I think of a Scrambler as whatever bike you can get your hands on, modified for off road riding. High suspension, flat seat that doesn't get in the way when you are standing on the pegs, knobby tires. The Cafe Racer of off road, the DIY Dirtbike that you can ride on the road to the trails, and then straight onto the dirt. A precursor to the Dual Sport really.

    Here are several bikes that clearly predate the SURU that I would say are worthy of the Electric Scrambler title:






    In fairness, the one on the right in this photo is more of a dual sport.

    I agree with Frodus about the SURU. It's a boxy over-sized electric bicycle, with silly Chinese rear motorcycle shocks that look totally out of place, and what appears to be about an inch and a half of front suspension travel (a measly amount for a mountain bike like 15 years ago, let alone a 2018 'Scrambler'). It looks like it was designed by Spongebob Squarepants.

    If folks want to go out and design a new electric bike or motorcycle, that's awesome, and I applaud them for that. But, don't pretend that your creation is something that it is not. This is a capable but chunky electric bicycle, priced at about market fair value. It's a funky electric bike for on and off road cruising. I don't think there is an off road motorcycle enthusiast in the world that would agree that this even remotely qualifies as a scrambler. Also, a 10 second google image search will show you that it is clearly NOT the worlds first electric scrambler, so why is dude trying to steal that title. It's just bullshit. Play to your strengths, don't try to pull the wool over peoples eyes, they will call you out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevo View Post
    We never limited Cafe bikes just to Ducatis only.
    Nor did, I suspect, anybody outside of the immediate environs of the Perica Garage . However, the only Japanese bike I ever even remotely considered "Cafe-able" was the RD350, which I did, in fact, blueprint and cafe. That said, yes, there have been a whole raft of pretty amazing cafe bikes built in the last years, including this Guzzi (what I think is a) factory build I saw last night:

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    I disagree on the "Scrambler" concept. I think it's a pretty specific build, rather than a pile of whatever you can throw at it, but that's just me. I DO know that THAT ain't no scrambler! (Or as we say in Boston, THAT AINT NO SCRAMBLAH!)
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