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    California bans ICE cars and trucks by 2035 - but not bikes

    Gov. Newsom just signed an executive order banning the sale of new ICE cars and light trucks after 2035.
    https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/up...79-20-text.pdf

    Conspicuously absent from this is mention of electric motorcycles. Given the rapid advancement of battery tech I expect ev bikes will be plenty competitive on range/weight/power by then. I'm sort of surprised he didn't include them.

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    I had the same observation regarding his announcement yesterday. But then I am not surprised. When was the last time that electric motorcycles were ever mentioned by a government official or legislator? BTW, by 2045 big-rig trucks are to be gas-free too. Another thing that wasn't mentioned in the announcement was a plan for updating the state's infrastructure so that it will be able to supply the power needed by all of these new electric vehicles. Apparently, just forcing people to purchase EVs though regulation will somehow overhaul our entire power transmission system so that the necessary electrical power can be distributed to electrical refueling stations that someone else will build. Likely not Big Oil, though.
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    Ya...dimwit politics as usual. As long as we keep voting these morons into office we'll keep getting more of the same.
    But it's all good because we have an endless money supply

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimimiles View Post
    I heard about this news. They also suggest to use a solar-powered motorcycle.
    Good luck with that. Do the people who think up stuff like that have any idea how long it takes to recharge a motorcycle-size battery using solar cells of a size that are typically installed on a home roof? And if they are thinking that you only need sunlight to power a motorcycle and do not need a rechargeable battery then I hope all of their travel is downhill.

    You gotta love politicians for their ability to make new technology sound so simple and easy.
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    Solar tech does seem to be following an exponential trajectory, not quite Moore's law, but similar. I am excited for the promise of solar, and maybe by the time the year 2035 rolls around... who knows?! But I doubt solar will be able to power a motorcycle. I can see some kind of fold out accordion style solar array bike cover for charging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevo View Post
    Solar tech does seem to be following an exponential trajectory, not quite Moore's law, but similar. I am excited for the promise of solar, and maybe by the time the year 2035 rolls around... who knows?! But I doubt solar will be able to power a motorcycle. I can see some kind of fold out accordion style solar array bike cover for charging.
    You may recall that contest that used to be held in Australia during the summer when auto companies and universities designed very odd-looking cars covered with solar cells to see which one could finish the race the quickest. Not all made it to the finish line, the speeds were pretty slow and the drivers really looked uncomfortable in those "cars". I wonder whatever happened to that yearly solar-power vehicle exhibition? I assume that if it was held now the race would be a little faster and perhaps more interesting.
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    I remember watching a similar thing at Laguna Seca decades ago, but I think most of the bikes were still gas powered to see who got the most miles per gallon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard230 View Post
    You may recall that contest that used to be held in Australia during the summer when auto companies and universities designed very odd-looking cars covered with solar cells to see which one could finish the race the quickest. Not all made it to the finish line, the speeds were pretty slow and the drivers really looked uncomfortable in those "cars". I wonder whatever happened to that yearly solar-power vehicle exhibition? I assume that if it was held now the race would be a little faster and perhaps more interesting.
    Are you talking about the World Solar Challenge that has run 15 times since 1987, including last year?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Solar_Challenge

    GM/Aerovironment won the first year at 41.57 mph average...not too shabby. Most years were at least that good, many were faster. Speed is very dependent on the weather, of course. The best speed was in 2005 by Eindhoven University of Technology at 63.7 mph average. You may have heard of them.

    https://www.storm-eindhoven.com/


    There is now a Cruiser class with cars that are a bit more practical.

    https://www.tue.nl/en/news/news-over...20in%20a%20row.

    The winning 2019 team are now working on a production version.

    https://lightyear.one/
    Last edited by Warren; 22 October 2020 at 1549.

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    That is what I was thinking of, but I haven't heard a peep about the Challenge in the TV or written press for some years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard230 View Post
    That is what I was thinking of, but I haven't heard a peep about the Challenge in the TV or written press for some years.
    That is because we are now going to "save the planet" with these. lol

    https://youtu.be/37YcTWjNJG0

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