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scoot440
12 December 2012, 1237
I really like the Brooklyn Motorized Cafe Racer and the Fremont Motors Fido Scooter, but neither has materialized beyond the initial buzz. Which bikes have you all been excited about that have not appeared?

frodus
12 December 2012, 1413
I haven't heard much about Brooklyn motorized.... not since I stopped contracting with them....

Wish motoczysz got into the production bike side of things.

Allen_okc
12 December 2012, 1442
the Phoenix Bike Worx, i would like to see those go full tilt boogie...

http://www.phoenixbikeworksinc.com/

they havent disappeared, but they really havent appeared either...

Richard230
12 December 2012, 1535
Well, there was Mission Motorcycles for a short time. :cool: But looking at the motorcycle brand forum, it appears that not much is going on in the production of street-legal electric motorcycles, other than Brammo and Zero. I really like Lightning, but the buy-in is a bit too steep and the amou:confused:nt of power and performance would exceed my riding abilities and far exceed my needs.

I kind of wonder what is going on with Vectrix? I thought they were returning to the U.S. but I haven't heard much about the company since MCN did their evaluation of their Li scooter model earlier this year.

scoot440
12 December 2012, 1540
I did see an announcement a few days ago that Smart is partnering with Vectrix to build their new Smart scooter.
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1080908_smart-pairs-with-vectrix-for-2014-electric-scooter

Richard230
12 December 2012, 1546
Cute scooter. It looks better than the Smart car. On the other hand, Smart has a lot more money than Vectrix and that partnership should help Vectrix stay in business.

Speaking of the Long Beach Motorcycle Show, here is a blog about Hell for Leather's reporter visit to the show. You won't learn too much about the bikes but you will learn a little more about Wes (he even mentions seeing Harlan):

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2012/12/whoa-you-rode-here-a-brief-visit-to-the-long-beach-ims/

skyclark
12 December 2012, 2128
I met a couple of the Brooklyn Motorized guys last summer.

They said they burned 500k trying to build a battery system and could not raise any additional funding when that ran out.

Seemed that the leadership did not have a great idea of how to actually get a vehicle off the ground and made some poor strategic choices.

teddillard
13 December 2012, 0247
The bike that got me going on this whole mess in the first place, the ENV. Fuel cell concept bike, but I started thinking about the possibilities...
http://evmc2.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/the-env-motorcycle-fuel-cells/

Also, of course, the Roehr. Broke my heart, that one did.

billmi
13 December 2012, 0633
The bike that got me going on this whole mess in the first place, the ENV. Fuel cell concept bike, but I started thinking about the possibilities...
http://evmc2.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/the-env-motorcycle-fuel-cells/

Sadly I don't think the ENV was built to be an electric motorcycle so much as it was built to showcase a fuel cell. Dump the fuel cell and drop in a battery pack, and I think the ENV would be pretty sweet. Maybe that's because when I was in elementary school I thought the Battlestar Galactica Turbocycles were cool.



Also, of course, the Roehr. Broke my heart, that one did.

Yep, that one is a shame. To see something like Mission - flaunting an over-hyped, never-to-be-built, clearly not possible (i.e. the revolutionary "street legal" Yeves Behar design that they showcased wasn't street legal and would have to be reshaped to become so) product as just a flagship for fundraising bring in loads of money and then see someone like Roehr build real, functional, legit bikes and not bring in the dough to keep it going is truly sad.

Richard230
13 December 2012, 0827
And going in the other direction, we have companies like BMW and Honda, who have all the money and R&D engineers in the world, but not the guts to actually build and market a consumer electric motorcycle. By the time BMW finally comes out with their "Urban Mobility" electric scooter (after years of development) it looks like it still won't be much an improvement over the long-suffering Vectrix. Plus, its price is likely to be so high that most scooter enthusiasts will be scratching their heads and wondering why it costs so much and who would pay that for a scooter. :confused:

I visited my BMW dealer the other day and went for a ride on their new $11,100 C650GT scooter and was not terribly impressed. I think BMW believes that scooters are nothing but two-wheel cars. This thing was very heavy (575 pounds) and wide and I predict that they are unlikely to sell very many of them in the U.S. My dealer practically begged me to ride it as apparently they are required to put a specified number of miles on their factory demonstrator models and if they don't the sales office gets some sort of BMW demerits. They had the scooter on the lot for 3 weeks and it only had 140 miles on the clock - most of those I believe were put on by the sales staff. My guess is that BMW has a sales anchor in their line-up with their scooter range. Maybe their e-scooter will fare better - but I wouldn't put any money on it.

drivin98
21 December 2012, 0417
Brooklyn Motorized had the bike I was also most excited about. I loved the styling (mostly) and the affordability aspect. 60 mph top speed was fine for me, though 30 miles of range was a bit short. Removable battery is a double-edged sword. Perhaps convenient for apartment charging, but also opens it up to greater theft vulnerability.

I still think someone could pick up on this basic concept and run with it. But with, at least, a 5 kWh pack.

I wonder what they've done with the prototypes?
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protomech
21 December 2012, 1220
Perhaps not disappeared, but evolve motorcycles has been very quiet for a while now. No recent activity on tumblr/twitter/facebook.

Perhaps they're just being quiet while they work - small mention in this recent vogue article (http://www.vogue.com/vogue-daily/article/the-motorcycle-diaries-learning-to-ride-a-bike/), and a very unhappy alleged customer report (http://www.ripoffreport.com/evolvemotorcycles/motorcycles/brooklyn-new-york-19306.htm).

gijoe460
21 December 2012, 1317
I absolutely loved the Rmoto, i followed it since like 2009...just never saw it turn into anything.

http://www.diseno-art.com/encyclopedia/concept_cars/rmoto.html

protomech
21 December 2012, 1353
Thought it looked very similar to the vectrix motorcycle .. turns out there's good reason (http://www.industrialdesignserved.com/gallery/R-MOTO--All-Electric-Superbike_The-First-Of-Its-Kind/628323) for that.


The R Moto Superbike for Vectrix was created for the [Ed: 2007] EICMA show in Milan. Designed by Industrial Designer Erik Holmen and owner of ROBRADY design, Rob Brady. This one-off show model was created by our in house Rapid Prototyping team working 80-90hr weeks to meet this tight deadline. Seventeen show quality 3-wheel electric scooters, a canopy scooter, and rear storage box were also built for the same EICMA show.

Turns out Vectrix *might* be bringing it to production (http://www.earthtechling.com/2012/02/125-mph-vectrix-superbike-rising-from-the-dead/).

drivin98
21 December 2012, 1419
Turns out Vectrix *might* be bringing it to production (http://www.earthtechling.com/2012/02/125-mph-vectrix-superbike-rising-from-the-dead/).

2012 is almost over and no word about the "superbike". All we have is the original mockup. And dreams of what might have been.

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frodus
21 December 2012, 1648
There have been quite a few postings on FB from Robrady Design and there've been some shots. They've been traveling all over the world for different reasons, but one of them was to show off the rmoto.

gijoe460
21 December 2012, 2122
Such a beautiful design...I like it because its so different....wonder if they can pull it off

frodus
21 December 2012, 2202
Brooklyn Motorized had the bike I was also most excited about. I loved the styling (mostly) and the affordability aspect. 60 mph top speed was fine for me, though 30 miles of range was a bit short. Removable battery is a double-edged sword. Perhaps convenient for apartment charging, but also opens it up to greater theft vulnerability.

I still think someone could pick up on this basic concept and run with it. But with, at least, a 5 kWh pack.

I wonder what they've done with the prototypes?
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I think that's a rendering.... AFAIK, only a couple prototypes were made and that looks exactly like a rendering of the bike I saw.

drivin98
22 December 2012, 2014
I think that's a rendering.... AFAIK, only a couple prototypes were made and that looks exactly like a rendering of the bike I saw.

Bah! I figured the one in the fore front was a mock up but I had hoped the others were mostly real.