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    An elmoto starter button?

    Here is a report about a Chinese inventor who has patented a "starter button" for electric motorcycles:

    http://news.motorbiker.org/blogs.nsf...--shocking.htm

    And here is the patent describing the details of the design: http://www.google.com/patents/CN203481105U?cl=en

    So my question is why (I read the reasoning for the button and I still don't get it)? On both my EMS GPR-S and Zero bikes all I ever had to do was to turn the "ignition" key to on and then ride off. Why would I need to push a button in addition? Maybe I am missing something. Or are things different in China?
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    Australian design rules also require any bike or scooter to have an additional, conscious step between turning the bike on and twisting the throttle. It has to be analogous to pressing a starter button, kicking it into gear or something. Seems daft, but yeah, someone probably crashed into a wall and complained to the standards board that they didn't know it was on.

    The latest E-max / Govecs scooters require you to push the kill switch off then on again before it works...

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    I have a start button on my bike. I like it. It means that I have both hands on the bars, with my thumb by the kill switch and my fingers near the front brake when the controller is turned on - just feels better, to me.

    Also, my bike came with a start button. I hate having buttons that don't do anything. I should apply for a patent, not for the start button per se - for "solution to usage of a motorcycle button rendered otherwise unnecessary".
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    I don't have any such thing Jones. Once the engine is going you twist the throttle

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    I have considered a "clutch" lever which must be squeezed along with turning the throttle to start the motor turning. For me that would be a comfortable and familiar safety. However some design would be required so you don't have to hold it to restart if you let off the throttle to coast. I'd be ok to have to pull it at a stop sign or light though. Also, wouldn't want to be able to crank the throttle and then pull the lever to engage (auto wheelie mode, AKA auto on your ass mode)
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    What turning the key and pushing the ignition button on isnt enough? Must be a democrat! :-}
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    My eVFR used the ignition key and the start button to latch a relay. My Empulse does the same. Hold the start button until it comes to life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRZ400 View Post
    What turning the key and pushing the ignition button on isnt enough? Must be a democrat! :-}
    Worse, I'm Canadian

    I could say you same about you, since you are so anti-oil, what with your tree hugging electric motorcycle and all.

    I figured a clutch switch would prevent anyone else for "revving" the throttle without realizing it was switched on. I plan on EVangelizing when it's done, and whats the first thing anyone does when they sit on a motorcycle? Vroom Vroom, twist the throttle. I don't want anyone inadvertently sending my bike out into traffic, or a brick wall.

    Besides, It wont have a key or a start button. I'm planning a fingerprint scanner ignition
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